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jokeboy:

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spookrock:

this is my Guntana do you guys like it

Not practical


Not real.

Both photos are shopped. In the first one, there’s no shadow cast by the gun to match the shadow cast by the blade…

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…and in the second, the original photo is easily found on-line. (Tsk, trigger, trigger, trigger.)

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If you really want a “guntana”, then start with a “gunto”. Even the name is correct - the guntō is a Japanese military-issue sword, and the Nambu gun this one’s attached to is a Japanese military-issue pistol…

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This isn’t a sword-gun combo BTW, just a sword-blade with a dead gun where the hilt should be. While looking online for that B/W photo (I’d seen it before, but didn’t have it on file) I found another photo as well…

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In case the image doesn’t enlarge enough, here’s the text:

This amazing “combination” weapon is included for its curiosity value, since, although there are examples of pistols being fitted with short bayonets or dagger blades, this is the only known example of a combined automatic pistol and sword. The pistol was a Nambu 14th Year (qv) and it should be noted that in the picture the trigger group and magazine are both missing. The word blade was some 29.0 in (744mm) long and the scabbard was modified slightly to accomodate the pistol. In normal sword construction there is an extension, known as a “tang,” around which the handgrip is constructed, but whether or not in this case the tang extended down the side of the pistol into the stock is not apparent. This was probably a “one-off” constructed to satisfy the whim of a traditionally minded officer, but it would seem that the sword blade would have made firing the pistol rather difficult, while the weight and size the pistol would have made the use of the sword problematical as well. Like most combinations, it would have been most unsatisfactory and its tactical value must have been minimal.

(My emphases)

This scanned page shows a similar layout to the large-format Salamander reference books on my shelves, but I don’t know its title or author, otherwise it might be worth tracking down to see what other dubious marvels lie between its covers.

“…whether or not in this case the tang extended down the side of the pistol into the stock is not apparent…”

The text suggests that the tang runs under the right-side grip-plate and is secured with a clamp connected to a peg through its mekugi-ana (hilt-peg hole).

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Here’s the peg-hole in a blade tang…

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…and here’s the mekugi being knocked out a of a katana grip (tsuka) so it can be removed…

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This next blade was secured with two pegs, but the principle is clear.

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However, mounting any blade on just one side of a pistol-grip would be a very insecure method of construction. Assymmetric leverage created by the long blade against the short tang would flex the whole thing loose in no time. While it looks side-mounted in the colour shot, the older B/W photo looks more like the tang goes straight down the middle into the magazine-well and may even have been wedged there with wood shim to simulate a proper tsuka.

“…the sword blade would have made firing the pistol rather difficult…”

The Nambu action was a bolt, not a slide, which worked like this.

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That’s why this writer even dares to hint that the gun might fire at all - because the blade and tang could (possibly) be clamped to a non-moving part of the frame.

It’s been done in this picture, which is just manga-style art and proves nothing. Good trigger discipline though, certainly better than the real guy in the real photo with the real gun and the real risk of negligent discharge…

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The pistol is illustrated as complete, with bolt, magazine and trigger in place and the blade clamped to one side so the bolt action can operate. That’s the artistic fantasy.

The reality is that any screws or rivets holding the clamp in place now extend into the bolt, locking its movement. Even if the clamp was welded or soldered to the frame to avoid this, the mekugi peg goes through the top of the magazine well from one side to the other, blocking any ammo feed except for maybe one round hand-fed into the breech.

Closer inspection reveals that even one round is impossible, because “…the trigger group and magazine are both missing…” and also, though not mentioned, the bolt. Compare a complete pistol to the “hilt”.

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Removing the bolt lets the tang go all the way down the centreline of the grip into the magazine-well, for a much more secure mounting, but means this is no longer any sort of working firearm. There’s no ammunition to fire, nothing to fire it with, no way for the action to cycle - and no action anyway.

If it isn’t a post-war fake I’d suggest it was constructed for one-time-only use in a “Banzai” charge which its owner didn’t intend to survive.

Real gunblades did exist, often for hunting or “look what I can afford” conspicuous consumption: here’s a Polish or Hungarian karabela sabre (ca. 1565)

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…and a couple of German Reiterschwert side-swords (ca.1580) with wheellock pistols attached. Their fancy decorated appearance suggests that these fall into the rich-boy-toy category.

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@qsy-complains-a-lot has a photoset of gunblades, including the Japanese oddity, and it says something about its daft design that to me, and regardless of whether they’re percussion-cap. flintlock or as antique as wheellock, all the others look far more sensible.

hey i get you have this overwhelming desire to show how smart you are but did you for once think when you were typing out this drawn-out history lesson,

“this is a joke post, very clearly photoshopped, meant for humorous purposes, maybe my input isnt needed here”

or even just “no one believes anything about this post is real why am i including this first part”

THIS IS SO FUCKING FUNNY WHAT THE FUCK

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